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pioneerbee |
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I haven't seen Up yet, but my daughter took my grandson and she agrees with you about the movie. She really enjoyed it and my grandson (4) did enjoy it
too, we just cuddle him through scary parts in movies.
Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it,
unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
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Blanchard |
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That's smart of you both to do that! My mother took me to see Bambi in Philadelphia and we had to take about three different modes of public transportation
to get there; when the sad/bad stuff started to happen, I sat on the floor with my head buried in my mother's lap and refused to get up. She was furious
with me and never forgave me for it! I still think it was dopey to take me to that film in the first place! I'd never seen any movie before that (and of
course my father had been killed not awfully long before that which she somehow thought had nothing to do with me!). All in all, it makes me very cautious
about taking little ones to see movies at all let alone scary ones. Children today have been exposed to a lot more than my generation had at the same age
thanks to TV and more films for kids than those days too.
Betsy
Taking allergy pills is like having Snow White multiple personality disorder. You go from Sneezy/Grumpy to Sleepy/Dopey/Happy. from CEO of Zappo's, Tony Shieh |
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BCCJillster |
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How old were you at the time Betsy? I think a lot of kids, including my ex, were traumatized by the death in that movie. Come to think of it, he too had lost
his father before seeing it. Hmm, never thought of that before.
I had a similar experience (of being seriously traumatized by a film) with the 3-D movie House of Wax with Vincent Price (but I didn't know who that was then). It involved a man badly disfigured by a fire in a wax museum, with his face dripping like wax, and how embittered he was. He would climb through the bedroom window of young women and kill them with a knife. That's about all I remember because I too spent most of the movie on the floor with my eyes covered or in the lobby crying. After that movie, I could no longer sleep in my room (its window was just above the roof of our porch and easily climbed), walked in my sleep for years, and was terrified of knives and fires for a decade or more. Wasn't worth it, was it. To this day I cannot watch that movie on tv. I get shivers just repeating this.
Reading: Chinese Whispers, Peter May; Secret Scripture
Finished: The Scarecrow, Connelly |
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Blanchard |
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I just looked it up on Amazon (what would I do w/out Amazon and Google?) and the release date was 1942, the year I was one but I was older than that when we
went to see it. My father died in '43 so I'm guessing '44 perhaps? when I would have been 2. Is that possible, I wonder? I can't see my mother
schlepping me into Phila. at that age to see it but it must have been in the area of '44-'45? Your ex's parent and mine weren't much into
introspection were they?
I hear you re Wax Museum; I had similar reactions to The Invasion of the Body Snatchers (original version). My HS boyfriend dragged me to see it and I'm scarred for life! That's not just scared but truly scarred!! Groan.
Betsy
Taking allergy pills is like having Snow White multiple personality disorder. You go from Sneezy/Grumpy to Sleepy/Dopey/Happy. from CEO of Zappo's, Tony Shieh |
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BCCJillster |
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Bets, my ex wasn't even born until late 1944, so it's possible you saw it in one of its many many theatre runs sometime after '45. That's one
movie (Bambi) I never saw in a theatre--didn't take my kids either based on Bob's experience. Little bodies, huge imaginations, even bigger screens,
and no sense of what's real or not yet. Not a great combination.
Reading: Chinese Whispers, Peter May; Secret Scripture
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jodijoy |
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Speaking of scary, Shutter Island has been made into a movie with Ben Kingsley and Leonardo DiCaprio.
"You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me" - CS Lewis
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pioneerbee |
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I saw Bambi for the first time in elementary school, the school rented it for all the kids to see and I was so embarrassed when I cried in front of my class
mates. Two movies that really affected me were Midnight Run (an American in a foreign prison) and Blue Velvet (Dennis Hopper, Isabella Rosselini). I just
couldn't deal with the cruelty and violence. I made a promise to myself that I would really research movies before I went to see them in the future.
So....I have never seen and will never see The Silence of the Lambs- no way. Many people have tried to convince me that it is worth watching but I know myself
better than they do.
Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it,
unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
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BCCJillster |
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PBee, I made the mistake of watching Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange without knowing what it was about. Talk about scars--yipes. Even though I watched it on
television, I found it so upsetting that I was shaken to my core. The violence left me feeling violated and I wanted to run and run away. I honestly don't
remember why I didn't turn it off immediately after the first hint of violence. Maybe I was hoping the film would redeem itself or explain or make it ok
somehow. it ought to be illegal for a kid to watch, freedom of speech be damned--numbing a kid to that stuff should be illegal. Eeesh.
Reading: Chinese Whispers, Peter May; Secret Scripture
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Blanchard |
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Oh that one still creeeeps me out just thinking about it!! Watched it at the theater and big mistaku! I agree with Pb; check out movies thoroughly before
committing an evening to watch and a lifetime to regret! Having said that, go see Up even if you do shed a tear at the beginning part, I think it's worth
it. It's no Wall-E but still a worthy piece. Nothing is as good as Wall-E!! Coraline is a good one that most people didn't see but I suggest not for
kiddies on Coraline. It's "dark" but oh so creative!
Betsy
Taking allergy pills is like having Snow White multiple personality disorder. You go from Sneezy/Grumpy to Sleepy/Dopey/Happy. from CEO of Zappo's, Tony Shieh |
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pioneerbee |
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Coraline was a mistake for my daughter- she took my grandson and regretted it, way too dark altogh she thinks he may not have really 'gotten it' but
she learned a lesson- do her homework before.
A Clockwork Orange is another 'never gonna see' movie for me.
Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it,
unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
Buddha |
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Blanchard |
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We're here for you PB! I've learned to listen to my buddies here on movies and so on since we share our feelings so freely. It means that we have
"tasters" who go before us and let us know what, how and why! We are free to decide for ourselves of course but it does help! Coraline was excellent
but we've learned that just because the film is animated, it's not necessarily for little ones; it's just a different medium.
Betsy
Taking allergy pills is like having Snow White multiple personality disorder. You go from Sneezy/Grumpy to Sleepy/Dopey/Happy. from CEO of Zappo's, Tony Shieh |
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pioneerbee |
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Movie 'tasters', I love it!
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Olle |
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Jill, do you think you were waiting for a redeeming part in Clockwork because the book was (is?) so widely read in school?
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BCCJillster |
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Olle, I don't think I realized that it was. What do they use it to teach? Am I alone in my reaction to the violence? Maybe my compass is off. I find it
easier to read (or skim) violence in an otherwise worthy book than when I'm force to see it, but this kind of cruelty really pushed all my buttons. The
torturing, taunting, enjoyment of misery really got to me.
Reading: Chinese Whispers, Peter May; Secret Scripture
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Olle |
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oh no, you're not alone in your reaction to the violence in that movie. it was unfortunately memorable and I'd never watch the movie again or suggest
anyone else watch it. Hmm, I was thinking it was read in high school but maybe it was college.
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pioneerbee |
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I also am extremely sensitive to violence in book or movies and I too, wonder if I am the only one. I did not let my kids watch those kinds of movies when they
were young but now that they are adults they watch them. They have tried to make me understand why but I still don't get it. They say it is because they
are able to see it as 'just a movie', just 'actors' and that sometimes they even think they are humorous because the story is so ridiculous. I
can't, when I am watching a movie or reading a book, I am IN THAT STORY.
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wernoclue |
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A Clockwork Orange is supposed to be an excellent book. I ran across a comment about it on LT a week or so ago where someone commented that they were
extremely glad they stuck with it and finished it. I've never read the book; saw the movie when it first came out when I was, what, 16? (IMDB is saying
it's release US release date was Feb 1972 -- and I *know* that's wrong.) Remember very little about it...
Karen
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Blanchard |
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My neighbor went with her dh to see the latest incarnation of The Taking of Pelham 123 and spent a good part of the film in the lobby. She said that she read
it years ago and enjoyed the book but truly hated the level of violence in this film (didn't see the first one!). We both agree that we can read about some
violence more easily than watching it. I said that for me it was a matter of control over it and in books I can skip or skim anything unpleasant but in
today's movies, it almost seems de rigueur (sp?) to show the most revolting scenes possible in the storyline. Yuck! She agrees with that too. I have a
well-deserved rep for being a bit blood-thirsty but mostly I am kidding about that and prefer NOT to read disgusting scenes nor watch them!
Betsy
Taking allergy pills is like having Snow White multiple personality disorder. You go from Sneezy/Grumpy to Sleepy/Dopey/Happy. from CEO of Zappo's, Tony Shieh |
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wernoclue |
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I agree with you, Betsy -- would rather read violence than watch it. The watching it you can't get away from while the reading of it you can skim and just
get the gist without quite so much horror. And, you're right again -- it does seem de rigeur in today's movies. I feel like we've raised a
generation of young people, now growing up or grown, who lack empathy and whose senses are dulled.
Karen
I would be most content if my children grew up to be the kind of people who think decorating consists mostly of building enough bookshelves. - Anna Quindlen |
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Olle |
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Re: The Taking of Pelham 123. The movie review tv show (can't recall the name, used to have Roger Ebert on it) doesn't do thumbs up/down any longer.
They do see it/skip it and both said to skip this new movie. However, they recommened the older version with Walter Matthau so I put it on hold at the library.
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